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Attitudes toward users of leet-speak?
Hello,
I'm writing a paper on the social history of leet-speak since the early 80's, and was hoping for any direction toward documents that expressed the general attitude toward leet-speak by any given community.
I'm looking for anything from Web sites, significant Usenet posts, to print material spanning the years. Anything that makes obvious statements of either promotion of leet-speak to disdain and disgust at it.
I would ask for opinions from readers of this post, except since I'm doing this for a college paper, I have to be certified in human research in order to do polls, surveys, questionnaires, etc. =/ So, I'm hoping people might be able to point me to existing material.
Thanks for any feedback!
-Liam
PS: While I'll take anything, I'm mainly interested in the component of leet-speak that involves word morphology (using affixes to modify a word, create new words, etc,) and not so much just the letter-number- symbol substitution aspect.
Thanks.
I'm writing a paper on the social history of leet-speak since the early 80's, and was hoping for any direction toward documents that expressed the general attitude toward leet-speak by any given community.
I'm looking for anything from Web sites, significant Usenet posts, to print material spanning the years. Anything that makes obvious statements of either promotion of leet-speak to disdain and disgust at it.
I would ask for opinions from readers of this post, except since I'm doing this for a college paper, I have to be certified in human research in order to do polls, surveys, questionnaires, etc. =/ So, I'm hoping people might be able to point me to existing material.
Thanks for any feedback!
-Liam
PS: While I'll take anything, I'm mainly interested in the component of leet-speak that involves word morphology (using affixes to modify a word, create new words, etc,) and not so much just the letter-number- symbol substitution aspect.
Thanks.
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[nq:1]PS: While I'll take anything, I'm mainly interested in the component of leet-speak that involves word morphology (using affixes to modify a word, create new words, etc,) and not so much just the letter-number- symbol substitution aspect. [/nq] This is tangential to your question and totally anecdotal to boot, but it seems to me that leet-speak is much more regularized than it was when I first encountered it (in the late 80s); I don't think it developed morphological elements like the -xor suffix until much later. By that time the symbol-substitution aspect had also become a lot more standardized.
- [nq:1]PS: While I'll take anything, I'm mainly interested in the component of leet-speak that involves word morphology (using affixes to modify a word, create new words, etc,) and not so much just the letter-number- symbol substitution aspect.
- [/nq] This is tangential to your question and totally anecdotal to boot, but it seems to me that leet-speak is much more regularized than it was when I first encountered it (in the late 80s); I don't think it developed morphological elements like the -xor suffix until much later.
- By that time the symbol-substitution aspect had also become a lot more standardized.
- I wonder if anyone's studied this transition in detail.
- Wim Lewis (Email Removed), Seattle, WA, USA.
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[nq:1]PS: While I'll take anything, I'm mainly interested in the component of leet-speak that involves word morphology (using affixes to modify a word, create new words, etc,) and not so much just the letter-number- symbol substitution aspect. Thanks.[/nq]
This is tangential to your question and totally anecdotal to boot, but it seems to me that leet-speak is much more regularized than it was
This is tangential to your question and totally anecdotal to boot, but it seems to me that leet-speak is much more regularized than it was
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[nq:1]Hello, I'm writing a paper on the social history of leet-speak since the early 80's, and was hoping for any ... affixes to modify a word, create new words, etc,) and not so much just the letter-number- symbol substitution aspect. Thanks.[/nq]
7h3 church 0f 7h3 subg3nius h4v3 f0und us3rs 0f 1337-sp34k 70 b3 v41u4b13 r3s0urc3s. h0w3v3r, 7h3ir 70ugh skins 0f73n m4k3 f13nsing difficu17.
7h3 church 0f 7h3 subg3nius h4v3 f0und us3rs 0f 1337-sp34k 70 b3 v41u4b13 r3s0urc3s. h0w3v3r, 7h3ir 70ugh skins 0f73n m4k3 f13nsing difficu17.
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[nq:1]Hello, I'm writing a paper on the social history of leet-speak since the early 80's,[/nq]
You cans gives cheeseburger for pays?
C.
You cans gives cheeseburger for pays?
C.
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[nq:1]PS: While I'll take anything, I'm mainly interested in the component of leet-speak that involves word morphology (using affixes to modify a word, create new words, etc,) and not so much just the letter-number- symbol substitution aspect. Thanks.[/nq]
Well, it's not leet, but Clockwork Orange notable.
Well, it's not leet, but Clockwork Orange notable.
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"Unclaimed Mysteries"
[nq:2]Hello, I'm writing a paper on the social history of ... not so much just the letter-number- symbol substitution aspect. Thanks.[/nq]
[nq:1]7h3 church 0f 7h3 subg3nius h4v3 f0und us3rs 0f 1337-sp34k 70 b3 v41u4b13 r3s0urc3s. h0w3v3r, 7h3ir 70ugh skins 0f73n m4k3 f13nsing difficu17. It Came From Corry Lee Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries.
[nq:2]Hello, I'm writing a paper on the social history of ... not so much just the letter-number- symbol substitution aspect. Thanks.[/nq]
[nq:1]7h3 church 0f 7h3 subg3nius h4v3 f0und us3rs 0f 1337-sp34k 70 b3 v41u4b13 r3s0urc3s. h0w3v3r, 7h3ir 70ugh skins 0f73n m4k3 f13nsing difficu17. It Came From Corry Lee Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries.
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[nq:1]Hello, I'm writing a paper on the social history of leet-speak since the early 80's, and was hoping for any ... material spanning the years. Anything that makes obvious statements of either promotion of leet-speak to disdain and disgust at it.[/nq]
leet speak is used by script kiddies and we all know what we think about them. Real hackers use real cyphers.
[nq:1]I would ask for opini
leet speak is used by script kiddies and we all know what we think about them. Real hackers use real cyphers.
[nq:1]I would ask for opini
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[nq:2]Hello, I'm writing a paper on the social history of leet-speak since the early 80's,[/nq]
[nq:1]You cans gives cheeseburger for pays?[/nq]
HOW I MINE FOR FISH?
Dave 'meaning: you might want to check out documents relating to MUDs, IRC, instant-messenger programs, in-game chat channels, and web forums, as well as here on Usenet' DeLaney
PS: My FAQ (below) recorded some stuff a
[nq:1]You cans gives cheeseburger for pays?[/nq]
HOW I MINE FOR FISH?
Dave 'meaning: you might want to check out documents relating to MUDs, IRC, instant-messenger programs, in-game chat channels, and web forums, as well as here on Usenet' DeLaney
PS: My FAQ (below) recorded some stuff a
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[nq:2]Hello, I'm writing a paper on the social history of ... either promotion of leet-speak to disdain and disgust at it.[/nq]
[nq:1]leet speak is used by script kiddies and we all know what we think about them. Real hackers use real cyphers.[/nq]
Yvxr EBG13, sbe rknzcyr?
;-}
I once posted a bunch of text (explanation about background for a story) that was "encrypted" by usin
[nq:1]leet speak is used by script kiddies and we all know what we think about them. Real hackers use real cyphers.[/nq]
Yvxr EBG13, sbe rknzcyr?
;-}
I once posted a bunch of text (explanation about background for a story) that was "encrypted" by usin
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[nq:2]You cans gives cheeseburger for pays?[/nq]
[nq:1]HOW I MINE FOR FISH? Dave 'meaning: you might want to check out documents relating to MUDs, IRC, instant-messenger programs, ... DeLaney PS: My FAQ (below) recorded some stuff about BIFF!!1! back in the early 90s; it's possible it might help.[/nq]
Thanks for the feedback!
Much appreciated.
-Liam
[nq:1]HOW I MINE FOR FISH? Dave 'meaning: you might want to check out documents relating to MUDs, IRC, instant-messenger programs, ... DeLaney PS: My FAQ (below) recorded some stuff about BIFF!!1! back in the early 90s; it's possible it might help.[/nq]
Thanks for the feedback!
Much appreciated.
-Liam
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[nq:1]Hello, I'm writing a paper on the social history of leet-speak since the early 80's, and was hoping for any ... affixes to modify a word, create new words, etc,) and not so much just the letter-number- symbol substitution aspect. Thanks.[/nq]
You might check the archives of alt.hackers.malicious. It is overrun with trollery now, but in years gone by there were some pretty strong opinions
You might check the archives of alt.hackers.malicious. It is overrun with trollery now, but in years gone by there were some pretty strong opinions
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