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Please look over these phrasal verb, and tell me if they are cover enough phrasal verbs or not? If it isn't can you give me an address or list? Please

http://www.englishvocabularyexercises.com/nouns-phrasals-politics-science-page.htm

Mister Micawber · Accepted Answer

That is just a few of them.  I have never seen a purportedly complete list, because there are so many: there are perhaps hundreds.  You will have to google for 'phrasal verbs' and make a compilation yourself from various on-line lists.

USF · Answer

I have, but phrasal verbs have often different meanings, and well, memorizing all of them is not that simple. I am looking for a logic to learn them easier and guess the meaning by its particles. Despite, I have collected many of them and studied a few of them

, I should learn to use them as well. That webpage was interesting because of the quizzes. I know most of English web pages have quizzes, but this has 5 sets and are ordered, and mostly cover all meanings.
However, have you any suggestion for me? I should memorize them or should I looking for a logic behind them? I know exceptions make this harder and harder, but I know that new phrasal verbs could be made though, so my favorite way of learning is finding the frame of building the phrasal verbs. (is frame right word? or should I use pattern?)

USF · Answer

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Mister Micawber · Answer

youzouHowever, have you any suggestion for me? I should memorize them or should I looking for a logic behind them? I know exceptions make this harder and harder, but I know that new phrasal verbs could be made though, so my favorite way of learning is finding the frame of building the phrasal verbs. (is frame right word? or should I use pattern?)

I think that it is a combination of memorization and rationalization. Since I am a native speaker, I do not have to memorize them, but when students ask, I try to find the logic of the particle. This does not always work, since so many phrasal verbs are also idioms.

Framework and pattern are both reasonable choices.

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