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Park sang joon Posted 11 years ago
Grammar

, as/ which/that

Even if the social references of the story are clear, as are the continuous reminders of the tensions often ignored in the depiction of the Japanese society, there is no attempt of making a proclamation. Whatever lesson one may learn from this movie, s/he must get it through a careful reading of details and by letting the influence of the beautiful soundtrack penetrate deeper in the mind.

I'd like to know why ", as" is used in my example, not "which" or "that."
Thank you in advance for your help.
  

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As (followed by a verb) is often used for making comparisons. Consider this simple example Mark comes to EnglishForward every day to improve his English, as do many other people. Your example sentence extends this idea and says that while the references of the story may be clear, the continuing tensions are often ignored and the two statements basically contradict each other (to an extent at least).

  • As (followed by a verb) is often used for making comparisons.
  • Consider this simple example Mark comes to EnglishForward every day to improve his English, as do many other people.
  • Your example sentence extends this idea and says that while the references of the story may be clear, the continuing tensions are often ignored and the two statements basically contradict each other (to an extent at least).
  • The second statement seems to be introduced to justify a third statement -- "there is no attempt of making a proclamation".
  • This usage of 'as' is rarely used and perhaps some people may disagree with me.
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As (followed by a verb) is often used for making comparisons. Consider this simple example

Mark comes to EnglishForward every day to improve his English, as do many other people.

Your example sentence extends this idea and says that while the references of the story may be clear, the continuing tensions are often ignored and the two statements basically contradict each other (to
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Thank you, Iavanhr, for your detailed answer.

I think 'as' indicates "social references of the story."
So I think the following rephrased sentences are OK.
1) Even if the social references of the story are clear which are the continuous reminders of the tensions ~
2) Even if the social references of the story are clear that are the continuous remind
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IvanhrYour example sentence extends this idea and says that while the references of the story may be clear, the continuing tensions are often ignored and the two statements basically contradict each other (to an extent at least).
No.the tensions are not ignored in this film; they are clear. They are often ignored, presumably in other films.

Even if
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5jj, that makes sense but the original sentence needs a comma before the often ignored part then.
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park sang joon think 'as' indicates "social references of the story."So I think the following rephrased sentences are OK.1) Even if the social references of the story are clear which are the continuous reminders of the tensions ~2) Even if the social references of the story are clear that are the continuous reminders of the tensions ~
No. It means

Eve
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Ivanhr5jj, that makes sense but the original sentence needs a comma before the often ignored part then.
Not if you regard that part as defining.
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Yes, that's how I understand it now, but I still think the author should have set it off with a comma.
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IvanhrYes, that's how I understand it now, but I still think the author should have set it off with a comma.
only if s/he intended it to be non-defining.

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