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As it was of her

Hello:
Is
"as it was of her"
here equivalent to
"as she usually did/tried" or "as it was her habit/style of doing things"?

She took a look at life, for she had a clear sense of it there, something real, something private, which she shared neither with her children nor with her husband. A sort of transaction went on between them, in which she was on one side, and life was on another, and she was always trying to get the better of it, AS IT WAS OF HER; and sometimes they parleyed (when she sat alone); there were, she remembered, great reconciliation scenes; but for the most part, oddly enough, she must admit that she felt this thing that she called life terrible, hostile, and quick to pounce on you if you gave it a chance.
To the Lighthouse, by Virginia Woolf (part1)
http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/w/woolf/virginia/w91t/part1.html
Thank you.
Happy Holidays,
Marius Hancu
  

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[nq:1]Hello: Is "as it was of her" here equivalent to "as she usually did/tried" or "as it was her habit/style ... quick to pounce on you if you gave it a chance. html [/nq] Neither - she is trying to get the better of life as life (it) is trying to get the better of her.

  • [nq:1]Hello: Is "as it was of her" here equivalent to "as she usually did/tried" or "as it was her habit/style ...
  • quick to pounce on you if you gave it a chance.
  • html [/nq] Neither - she is trying to get the better of life as life (it) is trying to get the better of her.
  • She is describing life as an enemy.
  • You'll no doubt be mindful that Woolf killed herself.
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[nq:1]Hello: Is "as it was of her" here equivalent to "as she usually did/tried" or "as it was her habit/style ... quick to pounce on you if you gave it a chance. To the Lighthouse, by Virginia Woolf (part1) http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/w/woolf/virginia/w91t/part1.html [/nq]
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In our last episode,
, the lovely and talented Marius Hancu broadcast on alt.usage.english:
[nq:1]Hello: Is "as it was of her" here equivalent to "as she usually did/tried" or "as it was her habit/style of doing things"?[/nq]
No.
[nq:1]She took a look at life, for she had a clear sense of it there, something real, something private, which ... quick to pounce on you if you gave it a
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[nq:1]A sort of transaction went on between them, in which she was on one side, and life was on another, and she was always trying to get the better of it, AS IT WAS OF HER[/nq]
She was trying to get theh better of life, as in the same way) it (life) (was trying to get the better) of her.

Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
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[nq:2]A sort of transaction went on between them, in which ... get the better of it, AS IT WAS OF HER[/nq]
[nq:1]She was trying to get theh better of life, as in the same way) it (life) (was trying to get the better) of her.[/nq]
Marius, a speaker would naturally stress the pronouns, which gives the clue that it's not the other sort of "as it was".
as IT was of HER.
Another example
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[nq:1]The other sort of "as it was" appears in a line of a well-known hymn, the Doxology: "As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be..."[/nq]
Over here in America, the Book of Common Prayer keeps the traditional comma: "As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be." Are you quoting from some newfangled European version?
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[nq:1]Hello: Is "as it was of her" here equivalent to "as she usually did/tried" or "as it was her habit/style of doing things"?[/nq]
It means life was always trying to get the better of her.
[nq:1] She took a look at life, for she had a clear sense of it there, something real, something private, ... you gave it a chance. To the Lighthouse, by Virginia Woolf (part1)
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[nq:2]The other sort of "as it was" appears in a ... was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be..."[/nq]
[nq:1]Over here in America, the Book of Common Prayer keeps the traditional comma: "As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be." Are you quoting from some newfangled European version?[/nq]
I am merely transcribing oral tradition. We never read it in church, we just
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[nq:2]Over here in America, the Book of Common Prayer keeps ... shall be." Are you quoting from some newfangled European version?[/nq]
[nq:1]I am merely transcribing oral tradition. We never read it in church, we just sang it. This was the United Church of Christ (Congregational), USA, 1960s. I'm sure the Doxology was printed somewhere in the hymnal, though. You are probably quite right
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[nq:1]"It is at is was" Pope John "Do be do be do" Frank Sinatra[/nq]
A well-known and time-worn tag line is, in one form, "To do is to be Nietzsche; to be is to do Kant; do be do be do Sinatra".
It gets more interesting when you Google and find various names credited for the first two phrases. "To do is to be" has Russell, Hegel, Shakespeare, Socrates, Descartes, and probably many more if
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Bob Cunningham filted:
[nq:2]"It is at is was" Pope John "Do be do be do" Frank Sinatra[/nq]
[nq:1]A well-known and time-worn tag line is, in one form, "To do is to be Nietzsche; to be is ... and again probably a lot of others. (One source has the addition "Yabba dabba do Fred Flintstone".)[/nq]
More in line with the originals: "I yam what I yam" Popeye..
[nq:1]I suspect that peopl

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