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Anonymous Posted 18 years ago
Grammar

Articles or not?

Do these need an article (e.g. the King of England, the father of..., the chairman of...")?

I am King of England.
I am Captain of Owsla.
I am Treasurer of the Scottish Cycling Council.
But I am victim of my own background.
"I am mother of the heir …"
I am father of four children.
I am chairman of the Africa committee of the British Refugee Council.
  

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What do you think first, Molly? We always like our anonymous students to make a first effort.

  • What do you think first, Molly?
  • We always like our anonymous students to make a first effort.
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What do you think first, Molly? We always like our anonymous students to make a first effort.
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They feel right to me without articles, but I can't say why.Ccan you tell me whether they are OK without articles, Mr M?

<We always like our anonymous students to make a first effort.>

Interesting that you assume the anonymous student will not have made the first effort before he/she came here for help.
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Anonymous<We always like our anonymous students to make a first effort.>

Interesting that you assume the anonymous student will not have made the first effort before he/she came here for help.

It is usually easier to explain what is correct or incorrect if we know what the student, anonymous or not, thinks. That way, we have a basis
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AnonymousDo these need an article
If you're thinking of these as titles or roles, you don't need the article.
I have trouble thinking of "victim of my own background", "mother", and "father" as titles or roles, so I would use the article in those cases. In the others you cite, I would say that the article is optional.
CJ
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They sound like a translation from Italian, LOL. We would say "He was father of two children". But in English I would use the article. My dictionary seems to like the article too, except in "to fall victim to", so I will stick with the article and stay out of trouble.
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CalifJimIn the others you cite, I would say that the article is optional.
Helsinki English shares your opinion, Jim!
CB
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Cool BreezeHelsinki English shares your opinion, Jim!
And Connecticut English would like to join in the chorus. [Y]
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OK, thanks all. How do the above differ from:

I am father to two children
I am victim to his needs.
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AnonymousOK, thanks all. How do the above differ from:

I am father to two children
I am victim to his needs.

Can't you see it yourself? To is used in the above examples instead of of. Why people don't use an article in these cases is something there probably is no explanation for. Usage gets fixed over a very
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Would you say that this mini-dialogue is non-idiomatic?

Jeff: Hi, I'm Jeff. I've got two kids.

Martin: Hi, Jeff. I'm Martin, group-leader, and this is, Alan, father of four children.

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