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Taka Posted 20 years ago
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·The SanFrancisco Giants ended up as the champ.

Is it acceptable to omit the article 'the' and say 'Giants ended up as the champ'?
  

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No, not unless you are writing a headline, in which the regular rules don't apply. )

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No, not unless you are writing a headline, in which the regular rules don't apply.

(Also, they would be the champions, plural, not the champ, because there is more than one person on the team.)
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Grammar GeekNo, not unless you are writing a headline, in which the regular rules don't apply.

(Also, they would be the champions, plural, not the champ, because there is more than one person on the team.)
OK, then what about this?

We have a baseball team called 'Yomiuri Giants' here in Japan. (for your information, Yomiuri is not a nam
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Yes, Yomiuri is the company - in this sense, the company won the championship.
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Grammar GeekYes, Yomiuri is the company - in this sense, the company won the championship.
Isn't it possible to treat 'Mets', 'Whitesox', or 'Giants' as a proper name in the same way?
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Do you call the company "The Yomiuri"? Probably not - it's just Yomiuri. We call the teams THE Yankees, THE White Sox, THE Tigers, etc. The Tigers are in the lead. The Tigers have a good chance of winning the championship. The Tigers might be the champs.

On the other hand, Wegman's (company name) is a great place to work, Access Group (company name) won the spelling bee, Waterloo Gardens
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Grammar GeekDo you call the company "The Yomiuri"? Probably not - it's just Yomiuri. We call the teams THE Yankees, THE White Sox, THE Tigers, etc. The Tigers are in the lead.
I see. I think most Japanese people see Giants as a particular noun itself, like Sony or Honda. That might be the differece.
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That could indeed be the difference. Teams in the U.S. have, with very few exceptions, names that are plural (countable). The idea is that the Giants is a team composed of giants. Each man on the team is a giant. The Raiders is team consisting of men, each of whom is a raider. And so on.

Note the peculiarity though:

The Raiders is a team ...
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Thanks for the information, Jim. Very interesting.

Now, just out of interest, could you name the few exceptions whose names are not plural?
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That used to be a triva question.
The Miami Heat

The Utah Jazz

There are more in the women's teams, but I don't know them as well.
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And Stanford University has the Cardinal.

Even newscasters sometimes slip and call them the Cardinals.

CJ
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