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Jeff_999 Posted 21 years ago
Grammar

Appositives and 'every time'

Sorry, another dumb question here,

"One of the most ancient arts, weaving developed independently in different parts of the world."
It's obvious 'weaving' is the subject. And weaving is one of the most ancient arts. But, what confuses me is that why we don't need "As" or "Being" to be put in front of "one of the most..."? Does that mean "as" or "being" can be omitted or what?

And, weaving seems not to need a determiner too huh?
  

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'One of the most ancient arts' is in apposition to 'weaving' (which does not need an article if we are speaking of the activity in general-- like 'no smoking', 'I like skydiving', etc). 'My father, the skydiver, is afraid of heights' -- 'the skydiver' is similarly in apposition to 'my father'. From Tina Blue's webpage: 'An appositive is a substantive that follows another substantive to identify or explain it.

  • 'One of the most ancient arts' is in apposition to 'weaving' (which does not need an article if we are speaking of the activity in general-- like 'no smoking', 'I like skydiving', etc).
  • 'My father, the skydiver, is afraid of heights' -- 'the skydiver' is similarly in apposition to 'my father'.
  • From Tina Blue's webpage: 'An appositive is a substantive that follows another substantive to identify or explain it.
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'One of the most ancient arts' is in apposition to 'weaving' (which does not need an article if we are speaking of the activity in general-- like 'no smoking', 'I like skydiving', etc).

'My father, the skydiver, is afraid of heights' -- 'the skydiver' is similarly in apposition to 'my father'.


From Tina Blue's webpage:

'An appositive is a substantive that follows
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Ohhh, thank you Mr. Micawber. I got some deja vu. My teachers taught me that before too.

And, can "My father, the skydiver, is afraid of heights" be taken as
"My father, who is the skydiver, is afraid of heights" ? (hehe, Just another thought.)
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Hello Jeff

I think MisterM's gone home, so I'll try to answer your question.

'My father, the skydiver' has a slightly different meaning from 'my father, who is the skydiver'.

With 'My father, the skydiver', the listener will know exactly who your father is as soon as he hears 'the skydiver':

'Oh, you mean Fred 999? So that's your father?'

T
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Thank you, Mr. Pedantic. I think i caught the picture of that.

And, in the meantime it reminded me of this question I posted coupla days ago:
"The first woman appointed by a United States President to a cabinet position, Frances Perkins held the post of labor secretary for twelve years."
I wondered if "As" had to be added in front of "the first woman appointed..."
And, t
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Hello J999

Not quite – 'Frances Perkins' would be in apposition to 'The first woman...cabinet position', as it gives further information about the 'first woman's' identity.

Careful with that skydiving.

MrP
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Merry Christmas, Mr. Predantic.

I see now, thank you. Emotion: wink

Ohh, by the way, allow me to ask some quick questions he
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Every time you change topic, it is better to start a new thread, Jeff, for search purposes. If we started talking about appositives at the top, it is difficult to divine that it contains information on conjunctions later in the thread. We would like you to waste time organizing your questions, just as we must use our time to answer them.

'Every time' is best considered a noun phrase wh
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Ok, I will organize our posts well next time. Thank you, Mr. Micaeber.

Actually, I didn't mean starting a new thread would 'waste' my time or what. You can see it from how I flooded you moderators with those questions (some are absolutely dumb :-s ). I just thought there's no need to start a new thread. 'Cause that one about the conjunction is a little easier, as compared with others.
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Hi Jeff,

'When' sounds awkward here ( 'every time when I saw her'), but is likely to appear in the spoken language at least-- 'every time when I saw her I gave her a wink'. 'That' cannot normally replace 'when' or 'where', but does so, as Mr. Swan notes, in a few cases (e.g. after 'day', 'place')--

'I'll always remember the day that/when I met you.'
'Is this the pl
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Oooh, great!! Now I completely understand it.

Thank you again. Emotion: wink

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