"I have an unreasonably strong aversion to making verbs out of nouns likes 'parent' ... (for example) ... 'Parenting doesn't come naturally to some men'." (I am not sure where to put the period here - another subject) Should I tell Andy that this example is not verbing a noun, or would some else like to inform him about gerunds?
In our last episode, (Email Removed), the lovely and talented Armond Perretta broadcast on alt.usage.english: [nq:1]"I have an unreasonably strong aversion to making verbs out of nouns likes 'parent' ... (for example) ... 'Parenting doesn't ... tell Andy that this example is not verbing a noun, or would some else like to inform him about gerunds?[/nq] You can't gerund it unless
[nq:1]Armond Perretta broadcast ...[/nq] [nq:2]"I have an unreasonably strong aversion to making verbs out ... or would some else like to inform him about gerunds?[/nq] [nq:1]You can't gerund it unless you verbed it first.[/nq] In this example, yes. In the general case, no. I read Andy's complaint as being against verbing "parent." I happen to agree that it's somewhat awkward. Yet Andy
[nq:2]Armond Perretta broadcast ... You can't gerund it unless you verbed it first.[/nq] [nq:1]In this example, yes. In the general case, no. I read Andy's complaintas being against verbing "parent." I happen to agree that it's somewhat awkward. Yet Andy used the noun form as his example while complainingabout verbs, and that's what I'm ******** about.[/nq] nuttah Adrian
[nq:2]"I have an unreasonably strong aversion to making verbs out ... or would some else like to inform him about gerunds?[/nq] [nq:1]You can't gerund it unless you verbed it first.[/nq] 'Parent' has been a verb since C17.
[nq:2]Armond Perretta broadcast ... You can't gerund it unless you verbed it first.[/nq] [nq:1]In this example, yes. In the general case, no. I read Andy's complaint as being against verbing "parent." I happen to agree that it's somewhat awkward. Yet Andy used the noun form as his example while complaining about verbs, and that's what I'm ******** about.[/nq] A gerund is a verbal, and that
[nq:2]In this example, yes. In the general case, no. I ... while complaining about verbs, and that's what I'm ******** about.[/nq] [nq:1]A gerund is a verbal, and that's what Andy obviously meant, and I think everybody understood the point, so Andy's wording was effective and unexceptionable.[/nq] Below are a few definitions selected entirely at random for "gerund." In all cases it is defi
> But not continuously, in these parts. Does the OED have a way of recording when a word has periods of use and un-use? Richard Maurer To reply, remove half Sunnyvale, California of a homonym of a synonym for also.
Armond quoted: [nq:1]ger·und ( P ) Pronunciation Key (jrnd) n. 1.. In Latin, a noun derived from a verb and having all case forms except the nominative.[/nq] But in the singular only.
[nq:1]> But not continuously, in these parts. Does the OED have a way of recording when a word has periods of use and un-use?[/nq] Do you have a special way of knowing whether a word is used 'continuously' or not over a 400-year period?
> > > For that word it was easy to tell in the negative. "Parent" was not used as a verb in real life 20 or 30 years ago and going backwards some number of decades. We (I, Andy Rooney, and a cast of thousands) would have noticed. We did notice the change. As for the OED, they keep track of references, so they could notice a gap. They could also tell their audience (and may