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Souroin Posted 21 years ago
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Among the most...
Hello everyone,
An article says (excerpted from a Reuter news) "Mr Haradinaj was considered among the most ruthless of Albanian guerrillas." Can this be rephrased to "Mr Haradinaj was considered the most ruthless man among the Albanian guerrillas"? I assume the latter would mean what the original expression says but need assurance from somebody.
Thanks for your help in advance.
Souroin,
An article says (excerpted from a Reuter news) "Mr Haradinaj was considered among the most ruthless of Albanian guerrillas." Can this be rephrased to "Mr Haradinaj was considered the most ruthless man among the Albanian guerrillas"? I assume the latter would mean what the original expression says but need assurance from somebody.
Thanks for your help in advance.
Souroin,
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Hello, Souroin, No, the two are not exactly the same. In your rephrasing you have made Mr. Haradinaj even more ruthless than in the original!
- Hello, Souroin, No, the two are not exactly the same.
- In your rephrasing you have made Mr.
- Haradinaj even more ruthless than in the original!
- "among the most ruthless" means "within the group of those who are the most ruthless, but not necessarily the most ruthless" or "one of those in the 'most ruthless' category, but not necessarily the most ruthless", whereas your paraphrase says he was (unequivocally) "the most ruthless".
- Jim
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Hello, Souroin,
No, the two are not exactly the same. In your rephrasing you have made Mr. Haradinaj even more ruthless than in the original!
"among the most ruthless" means "within the group of those who are the most ruthless, but not necessarily the most ruthless" or "one of those in the 'most ruthless' category, but not necessarily the most ruthless", whereas your paraphra
No, the two are not exactly the same. In your rephrasing you have made Mr. Haradinaj even more ruthless than in the original!
"among the most ruthless" means "within the group of those who are the most ruthless, but not necessarily the most ruthless" or "one of those in the 'most ruthless' category, but not necessarily the most ruthless", whereas your paraphra
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I didn't know "... considered among the most ruthless" could exist?
I would have said either "... considered as one among the most ruthless ...", or "... as one of the most ruthless ...", or still else: ... considered to be among the most ..."
I realize this is not a question, but nevertheless, could someone answer?
I would have said either "... considered as one among the most ruthless ...", or "... as one of the most ruthless ...", or still else: ... considered to be among the most ..."
I realize this is not a question, but nevertheless, could someone answer?
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Hello Pieanne
He was considered [to be] among the most ruthless
---> He was considered among the most ruthless.
Generally speaking, now people think
'be considered as X' is more natural than 'be considered (to be) X'.
But 'be considered as among X' sounds awkward (at least to me)
paco
He was considered [to be] among the most ruthless
---> He was considered among the most ruthless.
Generally speaking, now people think
'be considered as X' is more natural than 'be considered (to be) X'.
But 'be considered as among X' sounds awkward (at least to me)
paco
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Thanks, Paco.
But I had written 'be considered as ONE among ...', maybe that's less awkward?
But I had written 'be considered as ONE among ...', maybe that's less awkward?
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Oops..
Sorry, Pieanne. I mistook your message. "Be considered as one amomg Xs" is good, though it sounds a bit wordy to me.
paco
Sorry, Pieanne. I mistook your message. "Be considered as one amomg Xs" is good, though it sounds a bit wordy to me.
paco
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Hello Jim, Pieanne, and Paco
First Jim, il mio maestro molto rispetto, thank you for very quick reply and very easy-to-understand message as I always admire. This kind of subtle elements always confuses me so your straightfoward answers always help me. I didn't even realise the different tone between the original and my incorrect rephrasing, even though the man sounded like he was, co
First Jim, il mio maestro molto rispetto, thank you for very quick reply and very easy-to-understand message as I always admire. This kind of subtle elements always confuses me so your straightfoward answers always help me. I didn't even realise the different tone between the original and my incorrect rephrasing, even though the man sounded like he was, co
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