Although or though

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I don't think that they have different meaning, but I would appreciate it if you could give me some advice that help me to use each of them in their own places.Thanks.

Enoon · Accepted Answer

Their meanings are exactly the same, but we have to use "though" and not "although" in some cases: at the end of a sentence and with "as" or "even".

In conversation, we sometimes put "though" at the end:

"Although she was tired, she painted the room."
"She was tired. She painted the room, though."

"Even though" is a stronger form of "although":

"Even though she was tired, she painted the room."

"As though" means "as if":

"She felt as though she might cry."

When we can use either word, as we usually can, "although" is more formal and is preferable in formal writing. In speech, it's almost always "though" and not "although".

RJ · Answer

Thank you dear enoon. Let me practice some.

First of all, about your examples. Well, although's phrase can be placed before the main phrase or after that. When I change their place, it doesn't sound good. "She painted the room although she was tired." I mean when I put the although at the beginning of such sentences, it gives a hint to readers and listeners that we are now contrasting two events or two states. I feel that though is making speaker more comfortable. I think I am saying too much, but let discuss about it. I think language is helping us to picture what are in our minds. Instinctively, we find words to describe it. I guess when we say phrases at first we are in a casual mood; picturing facts, and use though to mention the contrast that is in our mind. And I guess even though is helping us to stress on the contrast more. Then again about putting although at the beginning or in the middle, which one is better for a formal writing?

Now practicing:
(I am trying to use examples that I am not sure about them to amend my mistakes before they happen. )
ALTHOUGH
(I interchange the positions of phrases, and please tell me which one is better)

Although I am a patriot, I care about my family's life.
I care about my family's life although I am a patriot.

Although he is trying very hard, his grades improves a little.
His grades improves a little although he is trying very hard.

I think "even though" is better in the very above example.

Although wireless communication is way more convenient than wired communication, wired communication is safer and have lesser noise.
Wired communication is safer and have lesser noise although wireless communication is way more convenient than wired communication.

THOUGH
We are all humans, and the same. Some times we have more differences with each other than with animals, though. (I'm not sure about this one, I don't think "though is necessary")

Mightiest ones among all creatures were living many years ago. We can see their their descendant as though miniature ones, though. (Again I'm not sure.)

EVEN THOUGH
He lives like a princes even though we are twins.
(Hah! I guess we put more important news at the first, right? e.g. in here "Even though we are twins, he lives like a princes." It seems the speaker is calm in here, but the previous version is put across some emotions.)

Even though people say about things they do not believe in, they want people believe them.

AS THOUGH
I do one mistake many time even though I am trying to avid it as though I am destined to do that.

Some times I space out in very serious situations as though I am in a beach or something.

Fivejedjon · Answer

enoon have to use "though" and not "although" in some cases: at the end of a sentence and with "as" or "even".

'Even although' is more acceptable in British English. There are 42 citations in the British National Corpus, as against only three in the much larger Corpus of Contemporary American English.

Enoon · Answer

RJFirst of all, about your examples. Well, although's phrase can be placed before the main phrase or after that. When I change their place, it doesn't sound good. "She painted the room although she was tired." I mean when I put the although at the beginning of such sentences, it gives a hint to readers and listeners that we are now contrasting two events or two states. I feel that though is making speaker more comfortable. I think I am saying too much, but let discuss about it. I think language is helping us to picture what are in our minds. Instinctively, we find words to describe it. I guess when we say phrases at first we are in a casual mood; picturing facts, and use though to mention the contrast that is in our mind. And I guess even though is helping us to stress on the contrast more. Then again about putting although at the beginning or in the middle, which one is better for a formal writing?

I agree with all that. You are probably right that it is good to set up the contrast right at the beginning. This is especially true for long sentences. I don't think there is an effect on register one way or another. The important consideration when deciding what to put where is that the end of the sentence is the most powerful spot.

RJAlthough I am a patriot, I care about my family's life. I care about my family's life, although I am a patriot.

You need a comma in the second one, too, because there are two independent clauses. Which one to use depends on what you want to emphasize, and that should come last.

RJI think "even though" is better in the very above example.

Your choice.

RJAlthough wireless communication is way more convenient than wired communication, wired communication is safer and has less noise. Wired communication is safer and has less noise although wireless communication is way more convenient than wired communication.

RJWe are all humans, and the same. Sometimes we have more differences with each other than with animals, though. (I'm not sure about this one, I don't think "though is necessary")

I think "though" is good there. It is informal in that position.

RJThe mightiest creatures lived many years ago. We can see them in miniature in their descendant, though. (Again I'm not sure.)

That is a bit weak. I would put that differently.

RJHe lives like a prince even though we are twins. (Hah! I guess we put more important news at the first, right? E.g., in here "Even though we are twins, he lives like a prince." It seems the speaker is calm in here, but the previous version is put across some emotions.)

The important part comes at the end, but the difference is often not great, as here.

RJEven though people say about things they do not believe in, they want people believe them.

No. It's not "even though they say them", it's "even though they don't believe them". "People want others to believe what they say, even though they don't believe what they say themselves."

RJI do one mistake many time even though I am trying to avid it as though I am destined to do that.

Good, but make it: "I make the same mistake over and over, as though I am destined to, even though I am trying to avoid it."

RJSometimes I space out in very serious situations as though I am at the beach or something.

Good.

RJ · Answer

Thank you very much for your patience and time. I appreciate it.

If you don't mind, two questions:
1. Why sometimes?
2. Why at the beach? I mean we don't know which beach, and at is usually used for declaring position not place. I mean when we use at we care about the position not the exact place. I hope I could put what I meant right.

Enoon · Answer

RJ1. Why sometimes?

That is how the word is spelled. It's an adverb, like "often".

RJ2. Why at the beach? I mean we don't know which beach, and at is usually used for declaring position not place. I mean when we use at we care about the position not the exact place. I hope I could put what I meant right.

Idiom. We use "at" there. No set of rules will let you use all the little words correctly. "The beach" is a setting, not a particular place. It's like "the mountains" in "The air is thin in the mountains." It's like "the circus" in "Dad always bought us cotton candy at the circus."

RJ · Answer

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