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Alluded to ...

I have begun listineing to cricket commentators using the phrase "alluded to" (generally as a synonym for "noted" or "observed" or "said"). Passing over the usage question here, is it normal to collocate "to" with allude. I've heard it so many times now I'm no longer sure myself, though as I recall the normal formation is without the "to".
eg "He alluded that she was somewhat promiscuous."

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Chrissy
  

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[nq:1]I have begun listineing to cricket commentators using the phrase "alluded to" (generally as a synonym for "noted" or "observed" ... myself, though as I recall the normal formation is without the "to". "[/nq] Are you thinking maybe of allege?

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  • [nq:1]I have begun listineing to cricket commentators using the phrase "alluded to" (generally as a synonym for "noted" or "observed" ...
  • myself, though as I recall the normal formation is without the "to".
  • "[/nq] Are you thinking maybe of allege?
  • "He alleged that she was somewhat promiscuous"?
  • com knows, "allude" means nearly the same as "refer", and they both need "to".
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[nq:1]I have begun listineing to cricket commentators using the phrase "alluded to" (generally as a synonym for "noted" or "observed" ... myself, though as I recall the normal formation is without the "to". eg "He alluded that she was somewhat promiscuous."[/nq]
Are you thinking maybe of allege? "He alleged that she was somewhat promiscuous"?
As far as I know, and M-W.com knows, "allude" m
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[nq:1]I have begun listineing to cricket commentators using the phrase "alluded to" (generally as a synonym for "noted" or "observed" ... myself, though as I recall the normal formation is without the "to". eg "He alluded that she was somewhat promiscuous."[/nq]
I would always use the "to", and am tempted to categorise your version as Dead Wrong, but we all know what thet leads to.

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[nq:1]I have begun listineing to cricket commentators using the phrase "alluded to" (generally as a synonym for "noted" or "observed" ... myself, though as I recall the normal formation is without the "to". eg "He alluded that she was somewhat promiscuous."[/nq]
That sounds altogether wrong to me.
I can't thing of an instance of allude being used without being followed by "to".
It mean
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[nq:2]I have begun listineing to cricket commentators using the phrase ... the "to". eg "He alluded that she was somewhat promiscuous."[/nq]
[nq:1]I would always use the "to", and am tempted to categorise your version as Dead Wrong, but we all know ... occasion", which I think originated in Australia, but is now almost universal. Not an over can go by without it.[/nq]
What about the use of
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[nq:2]I have begun listineing to cricket commentators using the phrase ... the "to". eg "He alluded that she was somewhat promiscuous."[/nq]
[nq:1]That sounds altogether wrong to me.[/nq]
It's an attempt at a transitive use of "allude." The same poster posted the same query to AEU, and someone over there quoted the OED for the proposition that there hasn't been a transitive use of "allude"
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[nq:1]What about the use of "evince" ... as in "it missed the off-sump by the proverbial coat of varnish, but the bowler was unable to evince a shot from batsman on this occasion ..."[/nq]
We really should get cricket commentaters and sociologists together, with an anthropologist to observe their attempts to communicate.

I once edited a sociology text in which the author consistently
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