All ~ won't make me happy.//// 2 translation?

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All the money in the world won't make me happy.

My book says there are two translation for the sentence above.

I don't see another translation other than 'I won't be happy with all the money in the world.'

What can be another translation? or...is my book wrong?(there's only 1 translation?)

Stephenmatlock · Accepted Answer

I'm not sure what you're translating to, but the sentence is better phrased as "Even with all the money in the world I won't be happy."

CalifJim · Answer

moon7296All the money in the world won't make me happy.
My book says there are two translations for the sentence above.

The reference is to a particular grammatical pattern in which the subject has a universal quantifier (all, both) and the verb is negated.

All of the students are not here.

~ 1 No student is here. There are no students here. The whole class is missing.

~ 2 Not all of the students are here. Only some students are here.

Applying this to

All the money in the world won't make me happy.

~ 1 None of the money in the world will make me happy. No amount of money will make me happy.

~ 2 Not all of the money in the world will make me happy. Only some of it will make me happy.

CJ

Moon7296 · Answer

The two sentences below stand in a semantic relation.

(1) Mary sings arias beautifully.

(2) Mary sings arias.

Whenever sentence (1) is true, sentence (2) is also true; whenever sentence (2) is false, (1) is also false. This relation is called entailment: sentence (1) entails sentence (2).

1. X : John does not eat vegetables.

Y : John does not eat broccoli.

In #1, X entails Y. (This is easy for me to understand; but even though I kind of understand why X cannot entail Y in #2, it is still confusing.)

2. X : John met with some of the delegates.

Y : John did not meet with all of the delegates.

Q) This thread is under this topic, isn't it?(#2).

Q2) In #2, if Y is false, since there are two interpretation, X cannot necesarrily false, can it?

Q3) Is the below which are the possible two interpretation of #2 correct?

One. John did not meet any delegates.

Two. John did not meet all delegates.(He met some of them)

CalifJim · Answer

moon7296I kind of understand why X cannot entail Y in #2, it is still confusing.

I think you mean that you can't understand why Y cannot entail X. Suppose John eats carrots, a vegetable, but not broccoli. Then it's true that he doesn't eat broccoli but not true that he doesn't eat vegetables. Is that what you're looking for?

moon7296Q) This thread is under this topic, isn't it?(#2).

I think you're asking if sentence 2Y is of the form discussed earlier in this thread, and the answer is "No" because in 2Y the "all" is not the subject of the sentence. (I'm not sure what you mean, though.)

moon7296Q2) In #2, if Y is false, since there are two interpretation, X cannot necesarrily false, can it?

If Y is false, John met with all the delegates. Therefore, John met with some delegates, and X is true.

As I see it, in #2, X does not entail Y and Y does not entail X. I don't take "some" to mean "not all". If he met with some it does not mean that he necessarily did not meet with all. Maybe the speaker didn't know that the group he met with consisted of all the delegates and expressed it as 'some delegates'. It could have been all of them. Conversely, if he did not meet all, it doesn't mean he met with some. Maybe he didn't meet any of them.

moon7296Q3) Is the below which are the possible two interpretation of #2 correct?
One. John did not meet any delegates.
Two. John did not meet all delegates.(He met some of them)

Again, I'm not sure what you mean. Your second "interpretation" is, in effect, the original statement of Y: John did not meet with all of the delegates. That's the only interpretation possible, as far as I can see.

CJ

Moon7296 · Answer

Thank you for reading a series of confusing questions and assumptions.

First off, I thought 'John did not meet with all of the delegates' belongs to the type of 'All the money in the world won't make me happy.'

That was the beginning of my gibberish.

Your answer is very helpful for me to get out of the fantasy.

I just wanted to know how X in #2 entails Y. I thought it is because the way I confused you.

Now I know 'John did not meet all of the delegates' has nothing to do with 'All the money in the world won't make me happy.'

CalifJim · Answer

moon7296I just wanted to know how X in #2 entails Y.

As I said, I don't believe X entails Y in #2. Has someone told you otherwise? If so, we may need to take a second look.

CJ

Moon7296 · Answer

Oh..

No, no one said to me X does not entail Y; sorry to confuse you again

CalifJim · Answer

moon7296no one said to me X does not entail Y

Not really. I did. I told you that X does notentail Y. I asked if someone told you that X entails Y. (More confusion?

)

CJ

Moon7296 · Answer

Oh. no... I was just so crazy throughout this thread...

Yeah.. I was going to say 'no one told me X entails Y'; but I don't know why I put it that way

CalifJim · Answer

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