About the "to require to do" and "to require doing"

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Hi,Is there any difference for two forms? I have below examples for it but I didn't see the point.- "v to do" : True marriage requires us to show trust and loyalty. - "v doing" : Lentils do not require soaking before cooking.Can you help me?Thanks,Duy Lam

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[nq:1]Hi, Is there any difference for two forms? I have below examples for it but I didn't see the point. ... to show trust and loyalty. - "v doing" : Lentils do not require soaking before cooking. Can you help me?[/nq]
That is not really "requires doing," it's "requires NOUN." I'm sure you know that "-ing" words can be nouns.
Lentils do not require pepper.
Lentils do not require love.
Lentils do not require soaking.
If you wanted to put it as a verb, you'd have to use the passive "to be XXed" form. And for some reason that just sounds bad.

It requires to be soaked. > BETTER It requires soaking. It requires to be washed > BETTER It requires washing.

Your first example has an active verb, "to show," and that is fine. t could be put in the passive form like this:
It requires trust and loyalty to be shown.
You would only choose the passive form if you had some good reason, though, as it is weaker and vaguer than the active form.

Best wishes Donna Richoux

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[nq:2]Hi, Is there any difference for two forms? I have ... do not require soaking before cooking. Can you help me?[/nq]
[nq:1]That is not really "requires doing," it's "requires NOUN." I'm sure you know that "-ing" words can be nouns. Lentils ... to be soaked. > BETTER It requires soaking. It requires to be washed > BETTER It requires washing.[/nq]
"Lentils do not need to be washed." Is fine with me. "Require" is just wrong in that construction, IMO.
Jeff

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[nq:1]That is not really "requires doing," it's "requires NOUN." I'm sure you know that "-ing" words can be nouns. Lentils do not require pepper. Lentils do not require love. Lentils do not require soaking.[/nq]
That's got to be one of the most unlikely STS triggers that's ever caught me.
Herring can always wait.
Herring does not mind waiting.
Meanwhile, I'm marinating!
I'm in the mood for love!

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Jeffrey Turner filted:
[nq:2]Lentils do not require pepper. Lentils do not require love. ... requires to be washed > BETTER It requires washing.[/nq]
[nq:1]"Lentils do not need to be washed." Is fine with me. "Require" is just wrong in that construction, IMO.[/nq]
In Iowa, it's perfectly idiomatic to say "Lentils need washed"..r

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[nq:2]That is not really "requires doing," it's "requires NOUN." I'm ... Lentils do not require love. Lentils do not require soaking.[/nq]
[nq:1]That's got to be one of the most unlikely STS triggers that's ever caught me. Herring can always wait. Herring does not mind waiting. Meanwhile, I'm marinating! I'm in the mood for love![/nq]
You know, I googled the first llne and got hits. The first 4 were just partial, but the fifth hit was all four words, in a row.

I thought google would always put an exact hit before the partials.

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[nq:1]Jeffrey Turner filted:[/nq]
[nq:2]"Lentils do not need to be washed." Is fine with me. "Require" is just wrong in that construction, IMO.[/nq]
[nq:1]In Iowa, it's perfectly idiomatic to say "Lentils need washed"..r[/nq]
I wonder it what part of Iowa. First time I have ever heard the usage was here, and it had to do with some part of teh UK. "The fence needs painted", I believe.
Not that Iowans speak the American tongue.

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Thank you Donna
As you said, the "require" verb has two forms: "v to do" and "v noun". Now it's simple to remember.
[nq:2]Hi, Is there any difference for two forms? I have ... do not require soaking before cooking. Can you help me?[/nq]
[nq:1]That is not really "requires doing," it's "requires NOUN." I'm sure you know that "-ing" words can be nouns. Lentils ... the passive form if you had some good reason, though, as it is weaker and vaguer than the active form.[/nq]
Thanks,
Duy Lam

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[nq:1]Hi, Is there any difference for two forms? I have below examples for it but I didn't see the point. ... to show trust and loyalty. - "v doing" : Lentils do not require soaking before cooking. Can you help me?[/nq]
It might be easier to make both of them either plural or singular. Also, try removing the negation, - or adding it to both. The result is still v-to do versus v-noun. But it might be clearer when comparing similar constructions.
ie:
True marriages (do not) require us to X. (v to-do) Lentils (do not) require X. (v-noun)
or..
True marriage requires us to X. (v to-do)
A lentil requires X. (v-noun)

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[nq:1]ie: True marriages (do not) require us to X. (v to-do) Lentils (do not) require X. (v-noun)[/nq]
Let me not to the marriage of true minds admit lentils?

For some reason I'm reminded of The Fisher King at this point.

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