A term about batter in electronics

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What word/s do you use to describe a battery/device that dies pretty quickly? Thanks

Deadrat · Accepted Answer

short-lived

Maelstrom · Answer

deadrat short-lived

Isn't that supposed to be used to describe an object/person that ONCE lived? I mean if I were to say that every model of a certain make all have batteries have a shorter life span, what term should I use? Certainly that would include all of them that are not yet made.

Deadrat · Answer

No, the term for a person that once lived is "dead." Come to think of it, a battery too.

A battery that doesn't keep its charge long is a short-lived battery. "Life" refers to electrical charge. We even talk about battery life span, in this case a short one.

Circuits that conduct current are also called live. This all goes back a couple of hundred years to Italian physicists Volta and Galvani.

I don't understand your comment about batteries that hadn't been made. Since these have yet to be "born," we could only expect them to be short-lived once they were made to the specs of the defective model we're talking about.

Maelstrom · Answer

deadratNo, the term for a person that once lived is "dead." Come to think of it, a battery too.A battery that doesn't keep its charge long is a short-lived battery. "Life" refers to electrical charge. We even talk about battery life span, in this case a short one.Circuits that conduct current are also called live. This all goes back a couple of hundred years to Italian physicists Volta and Galvani.I don't understand your comment about batteries that hadn't been made. Since these have yet to be "born," we could only expect them to be short-lived once they were made to the specs of the defective model we're talking about.

I was only clarifying that "short-lived" can only be applied to persons/objects that once lived. But you're arguing otherwise, which is to my surprise.
By your logic, can I say "the future models of this spec will all be SHORT-LIVED"?

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Deadrat · Answer

I'm confused. We can certainly say, "Because future models will incorporate batteries with well-known defects, these models will be as short-lived as the current models." In other words, if the spec mandates a faulty part that makes current models short-lived, we can be fairly certain that the new models will be the same.

Is this still a surprise? If so, tell me why?

Maelstrom · Answer

deadratI'm confused. We can certainly say, "Because future models will incorporate batteries with well-known defects, these models will be as short-lived as the current models." In other words, if the spec mandates a faulty part that makes current models short-lived, we can be fairly certain that the new models will be the same.Is this still a surprise? If so, tell me why?

It is a surprise to me that you say it can be used to describe ALREADY existing/not yet existing things/beings.
For example, can you actually say "the batteries of iphone4s ARE all pretty short-lived" when the batteries phones being referred to have actually NOT expired yet?

Deadrat · Answer

maelstromcan you actually say "the batteries of iphone4s ARE all pretty short-lived"

Of course you can say it, which is pretty much what CNN did in 2007, claiming a battery life of 2 years or so for the iPhone4. That's pretty short for a battery you can't replace. It turns out they were wrong.

If all the batteries we're talking about were made to the same spec, and we took a proper sample of the batteries and found they were short-lived, we'd be justified in saying that all the batteries were short-lived, even though some of the batteries hadn't been used. Because physics and statistics. You can always hedge by saying "likely short-lived."

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