A is required for B to do

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Eggdrop includes built-in support for sharing user information and channel bans, however a script is required to simultaneously control multiple bots and for bots to coordinate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC_channel#Channels management and modes.

1. A is (asked/ requested/ told/ ordered) to do
2. a script is required to for bots to coordinate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC_channel#Channels management and modes.

I'd like to know whether other verbs ~~ask, request, tell, order and so on~~ using the same structure as "require" can be used with the such a structure as in #2.

Thank you in advance for your help.

GPY · Accepted Answer

park sang joon2. a script is required to for bots to coordinate channel management and modes.

"required to for ..." is not correct. "to" does not distribute to the second part. The sentence is saying:

a script is required to simultaneously control multiple bots
a script is required for bots to coordinate channel management and modes

Park sang joon · Answer

I'm so sorry for my mistake, GPY.

I would have written: 2. "a script is required for bots to coordinate channel management and modes."
3. A <verb> B to do something.
So, I'd like to know whether I can say with other verbs using the structure #3 as in #2.

GPY · Answer

park sang joonI would have written: 2. "a script is required for bots to coordinate channel management and modes."3. A B to do something.So, I'd like to know whether I can say with other verbs using the structure #3 as in #2.

I'm still not sure that you have typed this as you intended. I can't see how structure #3 is represented by sentence #2. Do you actually mean to ask about either or both of these structures:

A verb for B to do something
A is verbed for B to do something

?

Park sang joon · Answer

I'm sorry for my poor expression, GPY.

3. A<require /request/ tell/ order/ expect/ allow/ cause/ permit/ enable...> B(Object) to do something (Objective Complement)
I know there are so many verbs used with the structure #3, but I didn't know the verb "require" can be used with the structure "B is required for C to do something."
So, I thought other verbs similar to "require" can be used with the structure "B is <told/ asked/ ordered...> C to do something."
And, I'd like to know whether or not my deduction is right.

GPY · Answer

park sang joonSo, I thought other verbs similar to "require" can be used with the structure "B is <told/ asked/ ordered...> C to do something."

The pattern "B is past participle C to do something" (B and C nouns) does not work with "told", "asked", "ordered", "required" or with most other verbs. I initially wondered whether it was ever grammatical, but in fact there are valid examples like "someone is allowed time to do something" and "someone is given money to do something".

Park sang joon · Answer

Thank you, GPY, fo your very helpful answer.

0. A + Verb + B to do something.
3. B is + past participle + for C to do something
4. B is + past participle + C to do something

Could you please classify #0 pattern verbs into two categories used as either #3 or #4?

GPY · Answer

I don't think this is a useful categorisation. There is no reason to think that a #0 verb will fall into one of those categories or the other. Also, the patterns may work with different B's and C's. For example, "B allowed C to smoke" is valid, but "B is allowed C to smoke" is not (B and C people). On the other hand, "B is allowed time to finish" is OK. There is also a doubt about whether the word "for" can have different purposes in pattern #3. Given a list of #0 verbs, one could work through them trying to think of #3 or #4 examples, but I don't really see the point.

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