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Samuraigirl Posted 12 years ago
Grammar

A Christmas from the Street?

(I read "Don't write paragraphs..." but I think this is a grammatical question so I write here.)

Sorry, this is a little bit long quotation, but I’d appreciate it if you are so kind as to read it through.

I never believed in Santa Claus. None of us kids did. Mom and Dad refused to let us. they couldn’t afford expensive presents, and they didn’t want us to think we weren’t as good as other kids who, on Christmas morning, found all sorts of fancy toys under the tree that were supposedly left by Santa Claus. so they told us all about how other kids were deceived by their parents, how the toys the grown-ups claimed were made by little elves wearing bell caps in their workshop at the North Pole actually had labels on them saying MADE IN JAPAN.
Try not to look down on those other children,” Mom said. “It’s not their fault that they’ve been brainwashed into believing in such silly myths.”
We celebrated Christmas, but usually about a week after December 25, when you could find perfectly good ribbons and wrapping paper that people had thrown away and Christmas trees abandoned on the roadside that still had most of their needles and even some silver stars hanging on them. Moms and Dad would give us a bag of marbles or a doll or a kite that had been marked down in an after-Christmas sale.
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My question is: “Did this family picked up the ribbons and wrapping paper and a tree to reuse them for their Christmas?”

I (Japanese) didn’t read that way because 1. this family seemed too proud to pick them up from the street and 2. in my culture picking up things discarded from the street is not socially very acceptable.

The point is "you could find." Just finding doesn't mean picking up,is it? Or this finding includes picking up? The author used "you" to hide their feeling of shame?

So, do all natives think that this family picked up a Christmas tree? (A grammatical factor.) Or do some of you think otherwise? (A cultural factor.) Look forward to your replies.

Thanks in advance.
  

Top answer

It does not explicitly say that they picked up and reused the discarded items. However, the implication seems to be that they did so, and that is how I would understand it.

  • It does not explicitly say that they picked up and reused the discarded items.
  • However, the implication seems to be that they did so, and that is how I would understand it.
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It does not explicitly say that they picked up and reused the discarded items. However, the implication seems to be that they did so, and that is how I would understand it.
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Hi, GPY. Thank you for your rapid answer.

I'm missing something...
Where is the implication?
Gee,I wish I could read it from the text : (

If the author were trying to say, "Yes, there were many Christmas things thrown away in the street, and everyone there could see them, but we didn't picked them up," how would the sentence 'You could find ..." go?
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samuraigirlWhere is the implication?
We celebrated Christmas, but usually about a week after December 25, when you could find perfectly good ribbons and wrapping paper that people had thrown away and Christmas trees abandoned on the roadside that still had most of their needles and even some silver stars hanging on them.

There is a clear implic
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The author was making the point that they celebrated Christmas days later than everyone else. The only reason he suggests for this is that by waiting until everyone else had finished their celebration, they were able to get for free holiday things that other people had thrown out.

I understand that in Japanese culture there is shame associated with using things that other people have thr
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samuraigirlA Christmas from the Street
I'm curious. Is this the title of the book or story that your quote comes from?

If so, I think it answers your question. Where did this family get their Christmas? From the street.

CJ
samuraigirlDid this family picked up pick up
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Hi CJ,

Thanks for your comments.

>I'm curious. Is this the title of the book or story that your quote comes from?

If so, I think it answers your question. Where did this family get their Christmas? From the street.

Actually, this is the title I made..
There's no mentioning in the text.

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