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Belly Posted 19 years ago
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01)According to 01b00Mr Micheal Swan (pratical English usage, page 48602b00), the first line said:02br
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00"note that the conjunction (the second that) is usually dropped in this tructure, it must be dropped 01b00if the relative pronoun is a subject02b02br
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00This is the woman (who/that) Ann said could show us the church02br
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00I think he implied '(who/that" formed as a subject but I think the 01font00subject is only "This is the woman "02font00 01b00(who/that)02b00 is just a conjunction..... Am I right? Could you please make it clearer?02br
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002) This question has nothing to do with the previous one,I've seen on the 4th page of 01b00Oxford dictionary Advanced learner's dictionary02b00, and I found out these line:02br
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00First published I948 (12 i01b00mpressions02b00)02br
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00... Seventh edition (01b004th02b00 impression)02br
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00I really don't understand "impression" there and the 01b004th02b00, 02br
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00Direct: Shall we be there tomorrow?02br
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00Indirect: They 01b00want02b00 to know if they will be 01b00there 02b00tommorrow02br
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00Is the sentence above correct?02br
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00Do we step backward from "future simple" to "present simple" tense? And what if the direct sentence in "future continous/ be going to"?02br
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00And 01b00there 02b00from direct will stay in the indirect one?02br
00Please help ASAP0-
  

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01) 01i 00This is the woman (who/that) Ann said [01b 00who/that02b 00] could show us the church02i 00. Swan is speaking of the already dropped second 01i 00who/that02i 00, which I have just reinserted in your sentence-- they are the subject of the dependent clause, '01i 00who/that could show us the church02i 00', and must be dropped here. 02br 02br 002)01i 00 Seventh edition (01b 004th02b 00 impression)02i 00 -- it is the fourth printing of the 7th edition.

— Mister Micawber

  • 01) 01i 00This is the woman (who/that) Ann said [01b 00who/that02b 00] could show us the church02i 00.
  • Swan is speaking of the already dropped second 01i 00who/that02i 00, which I have just reinserted in your sentence-- they are the subject of the dependent clause, '01i 00who/that could show us the church02i 00', and must be dropped here.
  • 02br 02br 002)01i 00 Seventh edition (01b 004th02b 00 impression)02i 00 -- it is the fourth printing of the 7th edition.
  • 02br 02br 01i 00Direct: Are we going to be there tomorrow?
  • 02br 02br 02i 02b 02br 02br 0-
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01) 01i00This is the woman (who/that) Ann said [01b00who/that02b00] could show us the church02i00. Swan is speaking of the already dropped second 01i00who/that02i00, which I have just reinserted in your sentence-- they are the subject of the dependent clause, '01i00who/that could show us the church02i00'
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101) 01i00This is the woman (who/that) Ann said [01b00who/that02b00] could show us the church02i00. Swan is speaking of the already dropped second 01i00who/that02i00, which I have just reinserted in your sentenc
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0 Belly:02br
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00 Please post on only one subject at at time. 02br
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00 Now, what tense would you expect instead of future there? It's natural to be the future. Aren't you talking about it? 0-
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0 I have no idea! Just because Mr Swan said that in his book 0-
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0Mr. Swan's "will" and Mr. M's "would" are essentially the same.02br
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00Would is a little less certain.02br
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00Also, we tend to shift the tense backwards in reported speech. 02br
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00You say "I will be there."02br
00 I say "She said that she would be there." But I could also say "She said that she will be there."
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0 But Micheal didn't shift the tense backward! 0-
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0 There is no Micheal. Do you mean Mr. Micawber or Marius? Or Michael Swan?02br
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0 I would have answered differently, taking 01i00shall we02i00 as a request about a possible plan of action or obligation rather than as a true future.02br
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00 Direct: 01i00Shall we be there tomorrow?02i02br
00 Indirect: 01i00We're asking if we should be there tomorrow.02i02br
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0Micheal Swan, of course. 02br
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00So, when to use future tense in reported speech?0-
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00when to use future tense in reported speech?12blockquote
10The opportunities for using the future tense in reported speech are limited. The direct speech would have to be in the future and the report in the present.02br
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00 Clarissa: "Robert will pick me up after work at 5:30".02br
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