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Orpheus Posted 23 years ago
Grammar
'You and I' vs 'You and me'
This topic was inspired by the question asked in the forums about subject/object pronouns.
A friend of mineshe's American once told me that 'you and me' was a common mistake native speakers made at school; and her English teacher always said 'you and me' was wrong, the correct one was 'you and I'. She said that was why most native speakers consider 'you and me' is sooo wrong, while we can still easily find phrases like 'for you and I', which is of course incorrect grammatically but still considered more correct than 'you and me'. What do you guys think about this? Grammatical rules apart, would you say 'you and me' is totally wrong while 'you and I' is wrong but still OK?
A friend of mine
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"you and me" sounds more romantic.
- "you and me" sounds more romantic.
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Of course it is, Maj. What I meant by 'you and me' being used incorrectly is something like 'Mike and me are going bowling this even
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Orpheus, I really couldn't imagine ever saying that and thinking I was correct (under any circumstance); it sounds awful!! I used to make the mistake when I was younger, and I always remember being immediately corrected by my teachers.
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hitch, between you and me, me is used after a preposition. It is not the subject, when it is not the subject of the sentence you can use me and don't take it literally, please.
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Hi Hitch,
don't think I really get what you mean. Are you referring to 'Mike and me are going bowling' or to using 'you and me' in general?
There's no doubt that 'Mike and me' is wrong. What I was saying is do you think that using 'for you and I', instead of 'for you and me', is as just incorrect as 'Mike and me are going bowling'??
What I mean by 'for you and I' is somet
don't think I really get what you mean. Are you referring to 'Mike and me are going bowling' or to using 'you and me' in general?
There's no doubt that 'Mike and me' is wrong. What I was saying is do you think that using 'for you and I', instead of 'for you and me', is as just incorrect as 'Mike and me are going bowling'??
What I mean by 'for you and I' is somet
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Maj - Lol!
Orhpeus - I'm confused:
"Between you and me" is a common phrase.
"That's a matter for Mike and I" - I'd never use that but i think it IS correct; I'd say "That's a matter for me and Mike" -- but it's probably wrong -- but never "mike and me" -- that's too much!!
'Between you and I, I think his marriage is in trouble.' - "Sounds" totally correct.
Orhpeus - I'm confused:
"Between you and me" is a common phrase.
"That's a matter for Mike and I" - I'd never use that but i think it IS correct; I'd say "That's a matter for me and Mike" -- but it's probably wrong -- but never "mike and me" -- that's too much!!
'Between you and I, I think his marriage is in trouble.' - "Sounds" totally correct.
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see, this is what I mean. In terms of grammar, that's a matter for Mike and I is incorrect, but most native speakers consider it's OK. Whereas Mike and me are going bowling is also incorrect, but considered totally wrong, as you said, it sounds awful.
It seems that native speakers are more 'tolerant' towards I used as a object pronoun than me used as a subject pronoun
It seems that native speakers are more 'tolerant' towards I used as a object pronoun than me used as a subject pronoun
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One more thing, Hitch.
According to Practical English Usage, 'Between you and I, I think his marriage is in trouble' is wrong. More correct way to say it is 'Between you and me'. We use object forms after prepositions, thus me not I.
According to Practical English Usage, 'Between you and I, I think his marriage is in trouble' is wrong. More correct way to say it is 'Between you and me'. We use object forms after prepositions, thus me not I.
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Hi people.
in regards to the You and me thing, could you help me out here?
Basically, i corrected another guy's use of "Jim and me", then was criticised by a teacher with the following argument:
"...Umm, no. The first time he, [the first guy], uses it appears to be in the eighth paragraph; 'He had seen Jim and me floating down'. Grammatically this is correct. You need to break the s
in regards to the You and me thing, could you help me out here?
Basically, i corrected another guy's use of "Jim and me", then was criticised by a teacher with the following argument:
"...Umm, no. The first time he, [the first guy], uses it appears to be in the eighth paragraph; 'He had seen Jim and me floating down'. Grammatically this is correct. You need to break the s
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